too loud, acoustics need tweaking. main thing is, i gotta agree with other reviewers, theplaceis too loud. i tried to listen to a live band and it wasn't just that they were too loud but the acoustics of theplaceare not the best for live music. it was very muddy, poorly mixed, and not at all enjoyable. in a better space with proper mixing where i could hear the vocal and lead guitar that band could have been good. i'll never know probably.....