don't waste your time. we at at fred's on a saturday around 1:30, thinking allot of the crowd would be gone...they were full, but definitively not crowded. first problem we had was even getting a rude waitress to come take our drink order...we waited almost 20 min just for that. second problem is the placement of the speakers, the music wasgreatand i enjoy good music, but the dude running the music board is clueless and the placement of the speakers is, well, stupid if your trying to play music on a patio. the third issue was after we finally got a food order taken, it took over an hour to get our food and when we finally got our food,it was ok....not great...just o.k. the chicken sandwich was so dry you would choke on it and in fact we could have gone across the street to in and out burger and probably got a burger just as good, but way less expensive. oh yea that's the other thing, the food is expensive for what you get. so in my opinion, fred's is way overrated and i would not return again. peace!