there are some things in life that just aren't supposed to be good for you. donuts are high on that list. they should taste sinful, and have very little if no nutritional value whatsoever. you don't go to a donut shop for a healthy meal. leave it to someone in vancouver to yet again try to remake the already perfect. gluten-free donuts? vegan friendly donuts? if you can eat flour or butter, then you have no business in a donut shop. i feel sorry for you, but some things just shouldn't be perverted for a small portion of the population. vancouver needs a good donut shop. tim hortons certainly isn't a good donut shop. all of their donuts are frozen and reheated each morning that they're served- yet some people consider these to be good donuts. with ignorance like that, it's no wonder vancouver doesn't have a fantastic donut shop. krispy kreme isn't horrible, but it's all the way out in the suburbs. i admit that i haven't been to the one on granville island in a long time, but when i was last there it was just average. that honey's place out at deepcove is also passable, but hardly worth the drive all the way out there. i'll also admit that i haven't been to that duffin's place on knight street, but come on- a donut shop that also serves subs? i don't think so. when i go for donuts, i don't want some artsy fartsy, hoity-toity, dirt eating tree hugging druid's idea of a donut. eating donuts at this place is like going to meat and bread and having them cut all of the fat and crackle off their porchetta sandwich. it just ain't right. it's an affront to nature. citizens of vancouver, rise up and unite against these hippie dippy yuppy restaurants that feel like they can recreate and improve on something as simple as a donut. vancouver is screaming out for a good donut shop. an unhealthy donut shop . a donut shop that says: " i am a donut. i am full of sugar, and cream, and butter and chocolate. eat me!!!". a donut shop with a sign in the door that says: vegans and celiacs- enter at your own peril but, i doubt that's ever going to happen. at least not for a while. so, i will have to restrain my donut cravings for when i travel south of the border, to places like top pot donuts in seattle, and voodoo donuts in portland. these guys know how to make donuts, and they know how to reinvent a donut successfully. cartem's donuterie ain't in the same class. if you want a real, actual donut shop, this ain't the place to go. if you are one of those ever increasing number of vancouverites that has to have everything in your life nonfat, soy, or vegan friendly, then i'm sure you'll find this place to be right up your alley. and i'm sorry, i just have to ask: donuterie? seriously what the hell is a donuterie?? get over yourself, you're hardly french you're a freaking donut shop, and not a very good one at that.