i'd give it a 10. cocktails made by professionals, with flair, precision, & care. these guys can make 4 differentdrinks+ at the same time & not miss a drop. the twirls & swirls are entertainment. it's a old style menu but they make anything you want. the beers, not a beer guy, are ample in choice & flavors from everywhere. its a simple wood bar, walls, with cement floors but its clean & relaxing. on the updated rampart across from armstrong park....its a great place anytime, but best after a night out. its as good a bar as in the city, better than some considered the best. priced better too!