good beer, ok food, bad service. thisplaceain't no papago, that's for sure. the hopknot ipa is first class, but the 8th street is not very good. the food is ok, but nothing special. the atmosphere is loud and noisy, like a college bar or sports bar. the service has been lousy on the several occasions i've been. the servers stand around and gab and ignore empty glasses and empty plates. it just barely rates a thumbs-up, but theplacecould be so much better with a little effort. i do recommend papago if you have a choice.